Today, the Democrats probably lost the 2020 election.
The idea to subpoena Mueller was about the dumbest possible thing you could do. You’ve spent 2 years on this, you’ve got his report, he made it clear in his report that he doesn’t think a president can be charged with obstruction and thus would not give his opinion directly past that.
“Well, it’d be Trimp. Or… Trump.” That was Bob Mueller responding to a Democratic congresswoman who was trying, along with every other Dem on the committee, to get Mueller to say Trump would be indicted/arrested if he weren’t the President. That pretty much sums it all up. Trimp.
Mueller sounded and looked like he was whacked out on oxycontin and alcohol AND benzos.
But like … the Mueller report was everything for the Democrats for 2020 which never made sense to me. Trump is off doing horrific shit, and people are obsessed with a conspiracy theory just so they can feel like he didn’t actually win the election. If they faced that they’d have to realize their policies are shit and people are sick of them. They did get him to admit, once, that there were grounds to charge him after he gets out of office, but when he was asked similar questions he demurred. So, he probably just misunderstood the question and the Dems are gonna think that means they won.
Basically, Democrats tried to get Mueller to read sections of the report aloud for soundbite purposes, but he refused to get specific, so they just wasted their time (and didn’t change their tactics when they realized they were getting nowhere, which is typical) and left the Republican congressmen free to just spin conspiracy theories where they’re trying to seize this and turn it into a winning issue. And sadly, even though Mueller would make it clear he didn’t agree with these theories, he’d do it indirectly.
Pretty much we learned nothing new and the idea that this hearing is going to catch fire with low information voters—it wouldn’t have done that even if it were pretty good for the Dems.
And as one of the many live-chat quotes I am about to share with you pointed out, Pelosi’s refusal to impeach means that this hearing makes NO sense. It makes it look extra-political - like Pelosi knows there is not enough to impeach but wants to use hearings to make an innocent wonderful president seem guilty. When in fact it’s not that she knows there’s not enough to impeach evidence-wise, but the idea that the Senate wouldn’t approve it (which is true) as being a reason not to do it… That’s insane! Or the idea that Clinton getting more popular post-impeachment is just the rule of impeachment and it will happen to trump too. I think it helps trump a lot more to do this kind of piddly shit… Every single sign ahead of this hearing said Mueller wasn't really going to say anything. But they made a huge thing out of it.
I missed some of the hearing, so maybe I missed some good moments. But I did play the political reportage youtube live chat screen grabbing game, on a channel with a robust live chat that featured leftists and some libs as well. Rather than keep giving half baked analysis I’ll just start slappin screenshots on this mofo and then we’ll send ‘er out.
Sums up the entire viewing experience.
I mean, this is boring and pointless, but… change the channel if it’s that serious, dude
My attempt to get them to slow the hell down so I could grab screen. chat was going 1000 miles a minute.
Dunno if this was intentional, but that’d make a great movie title about people who keep being unamerican over and over.
No clue what that was in reference to. You really start to notice watching these live chats that a lot of people seem to just be having psychotic events as they participate.
This was pretty true. Just pull the string and he’ll say “True,” “I am not going to answer that question,” '“I would refer you to the report”, and more!
Good to know
Burt Bobain putting points on the board referencing Terrence McKenna’s recommended dose of shrooms to completely wipe your third eye clean
I like that he actually typed a lisp into this statement unintentionally, but this is a thousand percent true. No self awareness. No understanding that, like, this Russia thing is not going to be what beats Trimp.
Someone spoofing the Dems’ crazily gentle and deferential line of questioning
That’s a sick side hustle brah.
He did seem SUPER stoned.
Nothing like watching a video and getting play by play on things that happened 20 seconds ago.
Winner
The Mueller as Cameron Frye idea took hold at this point and then it ALL clicked for me. he IS cameron frye.
He was definitely displaying a lot of old-man-itude. Just super slow with his non-answers
Professor Weed would know.
said of the Louisiana republican Rep who tried particularly hard to nail Mueller as some kind of partisan and liar (oh, by the way, the republicans unlike the democrats DID understand they could use it as political theater for their base and did so hard core today, while the democrats blew chance after chance)
Hahahaha. That is a totally proper reaction. I agree. Whoever is writing this part of the simulation we all exist in is WILDING OUT.
SUP BRAH! (Dude shows up after 3 hours and wants a full rundown, and nobody can give it to him because nothing has happened in 3 hours)
Basic summation of the Louisiana failed magician’s line of questioning
Man, don’t get my hopes up like that and just be totally making it up. Bagpipe halftime shows are serious business
Well live it up, KEV, it’s only 8 am where you are
first time I’ve heard “one day at a time” used to express acceptance that a drug you took didn’t get you high like you wanted.
the mod of the chat slowly unraveled until she was just talking about animal crossing and then couldn’t take any more and peaced. The mod couldn’t hang in, if that tells you anything about how boring this was.
Trimps-a-million
YUP - signed off on our torture policy too. The guy is a piece of shit and a Republican, and you’ve got idiot libs naming their children after this man. And getting tattoos. I wonder how many bob mueller tattoos are coming off today. Seriously folks, when the LEFT (well, to be fair, the rank and file dems who prob consider themselves left) wants to turn to the FBI to save them, we are beyond fucked. The FBI has actually crushed the left and continues to infiltrate activist groups.
The Bish Breaks Down.
At first I read that as “I’m not high enough for these goddamn edibles,” like he wanted to get high before eating edibles and I was just thinking man i think you’re good. I was also not high enough to watch this at zero percent high but you don’t hear me complaining! (oh wait, yeah you do, what am I saying…)
This moment happened when a Democrat questioning mueller on his entire resume, I guess to build his credibility, and asked something like which President made you a senior FBI official… he looked flummoxed, said H.W. Bush, and the guy was like “It was actually president Reagan but it makes sense with all thats going on here etc etc mistakes happen” but it just looked TERRIBLE. Mueller looked LESS credible for having done this hearing, not more.
See above.
A democratic congresswoman thanked Director Mother for his service as she began her line of questioning.
honestly, I feel like even making you read these chats could land me in The Hague.
Pretty much Mueller’s answer to everything — WHICH HE SAID IN ADVANCE WAS GONNA BE THE CASE… Why do this, seriously?
She said what I was thinkin the whole time. Dems, as ever, look completely spineless and only willing to make a stand when it seems super likely (to them) to be politically advantageous. Pelosi has the report, the House has the report. If they want to impeach over the many instances of potential obstruction that’s what they’re supposed to do. They don’t need Robert Mueller to go on TV and read from the report and THEN go “Oh my god, we had no idea” and impeach. thats a disaster waiting to happen, but the Democrats seem determined to fuck thimselves up so badly they have no shot at beating Trump
I’ll leave you with this off color but fun one. (Obv, this was prompted by the chairman recognizing a speaker was finished talking and yielded back the remainder of her time). Basically, you go to these live chats on the internet, and even if it’s a credible news and commentary show that requires one to be at least of average intelligence to understand the depth they get into, you realize that almost everyone is either really dumb, really crazy, just fucking hilarious, just fucking toxic, or any combo of those attributes.
This has been a special report. Just as in the hearing, I have conveyed nothing of importance, which was the point. Love to all.